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Le Wu-Tang rencontre la culture indé

Wu-Tang/ Babygrande connexion

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Le Wu-Tang rencontre la culture indé
La troupe du Wu-Tang Clan va enfanter un nouveau projet en collaboration avec Babygrande Records, ce qui fait la joie du patron du label indépendant Chucky Wilson, espérant que ce disque permettra d'autres connexions de ce genre à l'avenir. ‘Wu Tang Meets The Indie Culture’ est une idée originale de Dreddy Krueger, et devrait faire surface le 18 octobre prochain.

Du côté du Wu, on trouvera RZA, GZA, U-God et Masta Killa et de l'autre, Del Tha Funkee Homosapien, Cannibal Ox (avec El-P), C-Rayz Walz, Planet Asia, J-Live, Casual et Aesop Rock. Le premier extrait déjà disponible sur iTunes est "Biochemical Equation" de RZA & MF Doom. Des rencontres au sommet en vue!

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    Kent1_44 - Mar 16 Mai 2006
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    Only Built 4 Cuban Linx 2 10x meilleur que Fishcale :huh:

    Si j'ai mis 14/20 à Fischcale ca voudrait dire que OB4CL2 meriterait 140/20 :buh:


    Ok j'ai compris :scooter:


    Non serieusement ca fait plaisir, ca sent la grosse tuerie :good:

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    just-blaze - Lun 15 Mai 2006
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    a voila , c'est moi qui est mal compris , je me disait c'est un peu con qui dise ca Dreddy Krugger, mais on peut voir rien que dans cette interview a quel point il kiffe Gza , enfin c'est surment paske je le sais que je le dis :huh:
    Sinon si Ins n'y est pas ca je sais pas, Raekwon aussi n'est pas present ainsi que Masta Killa aussi ne sont pas present , qui etait aussi annoncer a la base.
    Tant de question...

    Sinon ouai la performance de Dreddy Kruger en tant que mc dans La Saga est surment le plus bel exemple de son talent , il endort la chanson , je deteste comment il finit son couplet et le reste quand tu vois le refrain de prodigal sun et le couplet de timbo king (jparle de cainri) paske shurik'n et akhenaton sont enorme aussi.

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    bg357 - Lun 15 Mai 2006
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    J'ai effectivement absorbe l'integralite de l'interview :)
    Une question resonne tout de meme en moi, pourquoi INS n'etait pas present sur le Indies Culture :unsure:

  • Mista JpKoff
    Mista JpKoff - Lun 15 Mai 2006
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    ouais le moins qu'on puisse dire c'est que dreddy c'est pas un MC né :rolleyes:
    rien que sur la saga d'iam, il était pas terrible... à part la phase "i write rhymes when i'm sober, say it when i'm drunk, the buddah monk got the skunk" qui m faisait tripper, mais bon à côté d'akh, shurikn et timbo king, il fait un peu pitié le pauvre

    sinon pour ghost il lui a aps conseillé de pas le sortir, mais plutôt de laisser tomber les collabos doom - ghost sur fishscale pour les garder pour swift & changeable

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    just-blaze - Lun 15 Mai 2006
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    a ouai je l'avais vu , il amene les infos de l'année!
    Rza a la prod de Ins et Gza , et il annonce OB4CL II comme enorme.
    Sinon je le trouve assez critique sur Ghostface, mais bon il dit ce qu'il pense c'est tout a son honneur , sinon a cause de Def Jam on a pas l'album de Swift & Changeable pour maintenant et aussi Meth & Ghost ont pas eté sur wu meets indie culture a cause de def jam.
    il est quand meme assez fier de lui en tant que A&R , jespere qu'il est pas fier de lui en tant que rappeur :lol: vu comment il est nul.
    Sinon il a sortis des super album de Think Diferently quand meme.
    euh sinon c'est bizare, il a la chance d'avoir ghost et mf doom sur son label pour un album et il conseile a ghost de pas le sortir , etrange.
    en tout cas, il a le merite d'etre franc , il m'a donner faim avec cuban linx II mais decu , il a confirme "l'absence" de Ghostface sur l'album snif

  • Mista JpKoff
    Mista JpKoff - Lun 15 Mai 2006
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    je savais que ça te ferait plaisir....
    sinon plein de choses à retenir de cette interview, pour ceux qui ont la flemme de lire

    --> Dreddy a monté la compil Think Differently uniquement avec des artistes indépendants, mêmes les plus connus d'entre eux ne sont pas signés sur major. il aurait pu avoir tout le Wu sur le projet mais Meth ou Ghost sont sur Def Jam, ce qui niquait son concept....

    -->Dreddy s'est occupé de la direction artistique de toutes les bombes sorties sur nature sounds (No Said Date, Black Market Militia, Mathematics) et va aussi s'occuper du projet Ghostface / Doom, de l'album 5% de Lord Jamar, du prochain Math etc...

    -->Il prépare aussi un deuxième volet de Think Differently, avec cette fois des artistes signés sur major. Au programme, RZA qui produira pas mal des beats, participations de The Game, Pharoahe Monch, Mos Def, GZA etc....

    --> Il critique la signature de Little Brother en major, qui selon lui leur a apporté peu de fans en plus, mais surtout plus d'emmerdes et moins de liberté, alors qu'ils prônent la liberté justement.

    -->Il critique pas mal Fishscale aussi, en disant qu'il manque quelque chose à cet album bien qu'il l'aime bien, et qu'il soit très proche de Ghostface... Il admire le travail de Pete Rock sur l'album, mais trouve que les chansons produites par MF Doom ne sont pas à leur place et qu'il aurait dû les garder pour leur album commun GhostDoom. Il est déçu que 9 Milli Bros ne soit pas la méga tuerie prévue, à cause du beat. Plus bizarre, il n'aime pas "The Champ" :heuh: et il trouve que c'est une sale imitation de Mathematics par Just Blaze (Just Blaze qu'il considère d'ailleurs comme un des meilleurs producteurs actuels).
    Il répète aussi que Cuban Linx II sera 10 fois meilleur que Fishscale, à un point dont les gens n'ont même pas idée.... Il écoute l'album tous les jours (connard :angry:)

    --> Donc comme a quoté BG, GZA & Deck auront droit à des nouveaux albums produits entièrement par RZA :D qui selon lui retrouve actuellement la forme olympique de la golden era 93-97

    -->Le Ghost/Doom est fini mais Def Jam fait traîner la sortie en refusant pour l'instant d'autoriser Ghost à signer un skeud sur nature sounds (bande de salopes, ça m'étonne même pas tiens)

    -->Enfin, Dreddy dit que ses objectifs de vente tournent autour de 50000 pour chaque album... ce qui est une garantie d'avoir des skeuds régulièrement, et de bonne qualité, en indépendant...

    Voilà, c'est un ptit résumé, j vous conseille quand même la lecture de l'interview

    Prochaines sorties prévues : Bronze Nazareth, GhostDoom, Lord Jamar, Think Differently vol.2, Cuban Linx II

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    bg357 - Lun 15 Mai 2006
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    :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

  • Mista JpKoff
    Mista JpKoff - Lun 15 Mai 2006
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    lol... bon j'éditerai ce post avec des commentaires sur l'interview, mais c'est clair que je vais pas m'amuser à traduire tout ça :lol:
    en tout cas c'est super intéressant, il parle librement et dit ce qu'il pense même si il doit critiquer ses potes

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    VERBAL KINT - Lun 15 Mai 2006
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    Sympa Mista, tu traduis?? :D

  • Mista JpKoff
    Mista JpKoff - Lun 15 Mai 2006
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    bon j'avais pas envie de créer un topic pour ça mais voilà une longue interview (en anglais, go learn Shakespeare's tongue you lazy bastards) de Dreddy Kruger l'instigateur de Think Differently qui parle de ses prochains projets, du label Nature Sounds, de Fishscale et de tous les prochains projets Wu, et du fait d'être indépendant dans le rap game.

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    Dreddy Kruger is A Wu-Tang Affiliate
    Part of the reason the Wu-Tang Clan legacy is still unparalleled is that Wu affiliates often capitalize on cross-promotion, courage and consistency. Dreddy Kruger, founder of the Wu-affiliated Think Differently Music label affirmed this with his stellar compilation: 2005's Dreddy Kruger Presents Think Differently: Wu-Tang Meets Indie Culture. I recently caught up with Dreddy to discuss his follow up to that project, Ghostface Killah's subtle decision to isolate himself from Wu-Tang, and the much talked about Cuban Linx Part 2, among other hot topics.

    What inspired the Think Differently movement?

    One thing that a lot of writers that interview me forget is that everybody on that project is unsigned. I mean it's mind-boggling that brothers like GZA, RZA, Ras Kass...everybody on there is unsigned and independent. I wanted to bring that whole world together

    That's why folks like Ghostface didn't make the cut?

    Exactly. I could have had Ghostface, Method Man, Redman, but those guys are on Def Jam. You know I'm A&R'ing the Ghostface and MF Doom project for Nature Sounds. That was my concept as well.

    What's the title for that project?

    Swift and Changeable. That's the working title. That album was supposed to have been out a year ago, but Def Jam shut us down with that.

    For those who don't know, what exactly is an A&R?

    A&R is Artist & Repertoire, A&R's basically capture an artist's sound, the real good A&R that is. Don't get me wrong, you've got a lot of A&R's at these labels that don't do anything. So, the real good A&R arrange and sequence the album, pick out what artists should be on the project, even down to the production. The first record I A&R'ed was Masta Killah's album (No Said Date). Then I did the Black Market Militia. Then I started doing mix cd's for Sandboxautomatic and Hiphopsite.com and all that. That's when I came up with the idea for Think Differently. I was looking for that RZA sound circa-90's. A lot of Wu artists didn't really wanna be on that sound, but I kept telling them "that's what the fans want." It ain't really about you as an artist, because you're making the music for the fans. You don't really make an album for yourself, you know what I'm saying?
    Right, unless you're going to buy 1 million copies of the album yourseslf.

    Exactly! I never understood that logic. So I kept telling them "this is what the fans want to hear you n***as on again. Plus you've heard all the Wu n***as matched up together before, but you've never heard GZA and Ras Kass. That's another thing I was trying to accomplish.

    I've always wanted to hear GZA and Ras Kass on the same song. Those were some dream collaborations.

    Exactly, imagine how I was feeling in the studio putting everything together. It was unbelievable for me, and everybody kept asking me "how did you get these guys together?" even with the Doom and RZA. I knew that would have the internet going nuts. I said "I'm not going to put RZA on a Doom beat, I'm going to put Doom on a RZA beat," especially since Doom is a big Wu-Tang fan anyway. So, he jumped at the opportunity.

    Is the second Think Differently compilation going to be on Babygrande as well?

    Basically, it's on Think Differently Music. Babygrande is really a distributor, but they handle all the marketing and promotional aspects of the record as well. I knew I would get the results that I wanted from Babygrande. Plus, I signed GZA over to Babygrande with a label deal, and I'm doing his record as well. Chuck Wilson [Babygrande CEO] did a phenomenal job with the project. A 50 Cent CD might be hot in the hood, but during that time, my CD was the hottest thing out within the underground. N***as were talking about my CD more than the DangerDoom(The Mouse & The Mask), more than the GZA/Muggs sh*t(Grandmasters), just because I had so much more to offer on my compilation. The DangerDoom was basically Doom rhyming over Danger Mouse beats and GZA rhyming over....I had so much more, plus I had GZA on two songs on my record. So, I told people my record is a great listen. You can put it in and play it to the end, if you're a fan of these artists.

    Or a fan of good music, period.

    Yeah, exactly,if you're a fan of good hip-hop - the real elements. I made it a point not to do a lot of the songs with hooks. I thought a lot of writers would say something about that, like it wasn't structured. I wanted to do it like we did it back in the days when n***as went in and just rhymed. F**k all that "Yo, I need you to stop here." You got more than 16 bars? Kick that sh*t. Don't stop. That's that structured format - 16 bars, hook, you know what I'm saying? I wanted to lose that whole concept.

    Many people have structured 'ears' so to speak. If your goal is to reach a lot of people, don't you think that breaking that structure could prevent you from doing so?

    Nah, not at all, because I'm familiar with the hip-hop audience, you know what I'm saying...

    Well, think about Little Brother; They make good music in my opinion, but they don't reach as many people as they intend to reach.

    Well, that's a marketing/promotion standpoint right there. That's where the labels train the audience like "this is what you need to get, this is what's hot." Little Brother definitely makes good music, I'm glad you brought that up. But, I think they made a bad decision by signing with a major label after coming off a highly successful independent record. That record did about 30-40,000 scans independently. They're only at 60,000 now with a major, it didn't even make sense. I think they lost their core audience when they signed with the major, because the majors don't really get Little Brother. They don't know what to do with them.

    You really think they lost their core audience even though the music didn't change? I would imagine that it was the same people that bought their second album.

    It was the same people but they only grabbed a few more fans. I think they should have played off that whole major label thing. They should've put that out there like "yo, we had a major offer on the table, but we turned it down." and let the audience know that they feel strongly about doing it this way, because now they got lost. You ain't heard nothing from 'em in how long, because for them to even put out a new single, they gotta go through certain structures through that major label system now, whereas as an indie, you could do whatever you want at the drop of a dime.

    Right. That's crazy. If you had to make some amendments on your second compilation, what would it be?

    I wouldn't change too much, man because you know if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Only thing is, I'll have a few major label artist on there this time. But, I'll get them cleared before I even record anything. I'm doing a song with The Game and GZA for the next one. Pharoahe Monch and GZA as well, it's going to be crazy. I've got Mos Def...I've got a lot of major label artists that are calling me after they heard the first one like "yo why didn't you call me to be on the album?"

    With The Game and Mos Def on the album, would you still call it Wu-Tang Meets Indie Culture or do you have a new title?

    Nah, it's going to have a different title but it'll still be Think Differently Music. I'll come up with an ill title, but it'll definitely be Wu-Tang-something because RZA even called me up like "Yo I wanna handle the bulk of the production for the next one" because he was very impressed with the project. People thought RZA had so much to do with the first one that even when Billboard talked about project, they put a picture of RZA next to it. But, I didn't have a problem with it, it's all Wu-Tang anyway. If anything, it helped. But RZA didn't even hear it until after I was finished with it, even the song that he did. But, I learned how to arrange and sequence from RZA. All you gotta do is listen to Only Built 4 Cuban Linx and Liquid Swords. Those are the two of the best put together albums from an A&R, sequence and arrangement standpoint.

    How come RZA wasn't on Ghost's album, FishScale?

    I love Ghost's record, but there's something missing from that record, man. You could tell he wasn't with the original team when he was putting that record together. And, I told Ghost "yo I don't think you should do this MF Doom record on here, especially when you're gonnna put the Doom & Ghost record out after this comes out." I was like "we need to save this for the fans, let them be happy about this and they'll run and go get this."

    The only Doom record I was anxious to hear was the one that didn't make the cut [Charlie Brown]. I already heard the rest on Special Herbs.

    To me, Pete Rock had the best beat on there. But, "R.A.G.U." was the best song on there, beat-wise. Song-wise, "Kilo" was one of the best records on there. Ghost is really separating himself from the Wu. You read the tabloids, you've seen what's going on. He's doing his own thing right now. I don't think that's a good move. People are gonna know when they hear how much better Raekwon's album is than Ghost's. People have no idea. I'm hearing the songs almost everyday. RZA's doing the whole album, and Dr. Dre will have 3 joints on there. The sh*t's going to be incredible. It's going to be one of those records where n***as is like "Yo, Rae is back!"

    So, it wasn't a matter of RZA not reaching out to Ghost, it was the other way around.

    Exactly. The only reason he got a Wu-Tang song on there with a whack-ass MF Doom beat was because he knows he needs that for the core Wu-Tang fans. But, that's one of the worst songs on the album. How can you have the whole Wu on there and end up with one of the worst songs on the album. That's supposed to be the standout cut. That's supposed to the song everybody's talking about, everybody's playing right now. N***as should've been jumping on that more than the Ne-Yo song, more than "Be Easy." If that song was done right, if RZA would've produced it, that would be the highlight of FishScale. That's what would've pushed it to the next level.

    Wow, you've got a ton of music coming out this year.

    Man, we got a whole lot. Inspectah Deck, GZA, and RZA's projects are going to be the highlights of the year out of the 9 generals. RZA's about to give GZA a whole album again on some Liquid Swords sh*t, and he's doing the same with Deck. RZA's in that zone again, where he's just concentrating on putting his beats together to try and bring the Wu sound back. That's why you ain't seeing him that much. The "W" has bullet holes in it right now, and it's about to fall. I think when I released my compilation, I held it up a little bit. It gave us a little bit more life, like "OK, these n***as ain't dead, they still got some creative thoughts and everything."

    How soon should we look forward to the Ghostface and MF Doom record?

    That's coming out this spring. All we're waiting on is for Def Jam to clear Ghostface. Def Jam still hasn't cleared Ghost. They kept telling us that we have to wait till Ghost's album drops. His album has dropped, but they still haven't signed the papers yet.

    So, the record is done?

    The record is done. We just can't do anything with it until Def Jam clears Ghost. We've got enough stuff to hold people over till next year. The Think Differently volume II will be out January 2007. Raekwon is going to rock through the winter when he drops, I'm telling you.

    Is that going to be a Rae and Ghost collaboration all through?

    Cuban Linx 2? Nah, there ain't even no Ghost on it like that. Ghost's probably only on like 2-3 joints. Deck and GZA picked up the bulk of it. You've got GZA on like 5, and Deck on like 4.

    That's going to be different. What other projects are you excited about right now?

    Man, I didn't even get to tell you. I've got the Bronze Nazareth (The Great Migration)coming out on my label on May 23rd, 2006. Then I got the 5% record with Lord Jamar. I'm really excited about that. That record is strictly nothing but 5%ers on there. Nothing but the gods. I'm talking about Lord Jamar, Grand Puba, GZA, RZA, GZA's son, Ol'Dirty Bastard's son, Lord Jamar's son, Poppa Wu, you know what I'm saying. That's another concept record that I put together with Lord Jamar. Nobody's ever put out an album under The 5% title. That's coming out in June.

    Upcoming Think Differently Music/Wu-Tang Projects

    Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx 2
    Ghostface & MF Doom - Swift & Changeables
    Bronze Nazareth - The Great Migration
    Lord Jamar - The 5% Album
    Dreddy Kruger - Think Differently Volume II

    What's up with Mathematics?

    That's another producer...aw see you hitting sh*t right on the...Math and Ghost have the best chemistry outside of Ghost and RZA. In fact, Math gave Ghost two of his best songs ever: "Mighty Healthy" and "Wu-Banga 101." If you've listened to FishScale, you'll notice that Just Blaze tried to recreate that whole "Mighty Healthy" sound with that bullsh*t song, "The Champ." That wasn't even a classic Just Blaze sh*t yo. I was disappointed in that because Just Blaze is one of my favorite producers. Math was bugging off that sh*t as well, but I tried to explain to him that "Yo, he was trying to recreate your sound." I expect so much more from Just Blaze, because everyone knows Just Blaze got heat.

    Realistically, what commercial goals - if any - did you have for the album?

    I had no commercial goals at all. I said "if I could do 50,000 on this project within a year, I think that'll be good," especially for my first release on my label. As it is now, I'm already at over 50,000 in a little over 6 months. That's why they asked me to do volume II for next year. I wanted to do this more for the fans of Wu-Tang and for the independent, that's why it's called Wu-Tang Meets the Indie Culture. I did this to show how powerful the independent world is, and to show major labels that "look at all this talent put together on this one project and none of these guys is on a major label, something is wrong with this picture," you know what I'm saying?

    Right

    Even down to myself, I look at like "Yo, I should be up in one of these companies putting real big records together. A project like this on Def Jam would've been phenomenal, if they'd put their machines behind something like this. But, they're so scared and so used to doing things one way that they don't even understand something like this. But, from what I heard though, my CD has come across a lot of high end people in labels. It's making a little noise where n***as is like "what the f**k is this?" They're looking at it like "damn, where's this from?"

    It's never been done before

    Never been done. A lot of people have done compilations. When I first told my man, Chucky, that I was doing a compilation, it didn't really have everybody's interest at first. I knew that would be the case, because I didn't tell them my concept of my compilation at first. It's been a million compilations, but basically, they just get n***as like "yo, you can rhyme on this beat?" and whatever. They don't really take time to put something together that's monumental. No concept, no thought process behind it. Once my man started hearing about it, he came and met me while I was having dinner with my girl, like "Yo I heard about this Wu-Tang Meets Indie Culture." He heard a couple songs I had done with RZA and was like "I gotta have this album. You didn't tell me it was going to be something like this." Then, I finally played some joints for him, because he made me an offer right on the sspot that I couldn't refuse. Babygrande, Chuck Wilson really understood, and really got behind the project. This is one of his favorite albums ever.

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    underground squat - Jeu 20 Oct 2005
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    Quel album!
    mes tracks prefered sont celle de rza avec mf doom,rza et raskass,le tribut pour odb,j live et rza...
    Je vais surement me l'acheter.

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    Pharoahe - Mer 19 Oct 2005
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    jpense que c inutile de s'en faire quant aux influences rock sur le prochain album de rza... il arrive toujours à arranger ses prods pour qu'elles sonnent bien rap. et puis le dernier mos def a bcp d'influences rock et c pourtant un excellent album.
    sinon je suis assez d'accord avec toi sur wu tang meets the indie culture... c une petite bombe ^^

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    jeremy - Mer 19 Oct 2005
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    C'est normal la newz est assez vieille mais Rza a envoyer un communiquer disant qu'il ferai un nouvel album.
    Mais d'apres les premier ecos Cappadonna et U-God ne seron pa sur l'album.
    et l'album devrai avoir des in fluence Rock :no:
    Mais bon sachan que Rza est un ganie jpense pas que se sera de la merde.



    Ensuite concernan l'album je l'ai écouter et franchement il est tres bon .
    nivo prod Bronze Nazareth et Rza dechire .
    La track tribute a ODB est bien vu.
    Mes tracks preferé sont les deux collaboration entre GZA et Ras Kass : Verse et Lyrical swords.







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    Real Lex - Jeu 06 Oct 2005
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    co sign pharo'. Il aurait été couillu de prendre des gars qui commencent à percer, comme quan, reef the lost cauze, pumpkinhead, supastition, etc...car les "indé" en question sont pas des petites signatures ou des contrats récents, mais des boss de l'underground, qui sont pas des creve la dalle...Wu tang, une certaine vision de l'indie...avec des prods maison, histoire de pas prendre de risuqes en passant les commandes à des prods également indie, pour de vrai...

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    Pharoahe - Jeu 06 Oct 2005
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    bon moi ce projet je l'attends pas comme le projet de l'année et c clair. l'idée est sympa (rencontre du wu avec la culture indé) mais dans la réalisation ya pas bcp de risques pck les invités indé ont déja des carrières à 3 voire 4 albums minimum... donc yaura rien de très frais mais du bon son à n'en pas douter.

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    Real Lex - Jeu 06 Oct 2005
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    [email protected] paz

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    ManyMore - Mer 05 Oct 2005
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    Moi ossi je voudré bien savoir parce que g été sur le site officiel, il parle que du skeud de RZA avec les autres rappeurs

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    dogforlife - Mer 05 Oct 2005
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    c est vrai mais ils ont le meme style dans la regulation reecoutte bien les 2 tracks :good:

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    Bennie Paz - Mer 05 Oct 2005
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    Et t'a sortie ca d'ou ?je serai curieux que tu fasse tourné pour voir ...

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    Real Lex - Mer 05 Oct 2005
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    lol,t'es pas fou mais t'as pas raison pour autant. "nas is ilke" est tres différent, tant dans la section rythmique qua le sample ou la ligne de basse. C'est vraiment du rza.

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    dogforlife - Mar 04 Oct 2005
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    en plus de resembler un peu aux beats de kanye il me fait penser a la prod pour nas nas is like!!c est dans le meme genre a votre avis je suis fou ou j ai un peu raison?

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    GGGG-Unit88 - Mar 04 Oct 2005
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    j'ai écouter quelque son du prochain album du wu tang clan sa risque de faire trés trés mal.

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    Bennie Paz - Mar 04 Oct 2005
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    A ouai j'avais pas tricar le rza comme Kanye west...putain ouai quand meme !... :heuh:

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    Real Lex - Mar 04 Oct 2005
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    co sign verbal kint...

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    Bleak - Mar 04 Oct 2005
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    Aïe Aïe Aïe je sent que ca va etre tout bon ca :good:
    Quand le myth rencontre la créativité, ca sent le passage de flambeau !
    J'aurait bien aimé voir High & Mighty aussi sur le projet, pas grave car deja du El-p, du MF Doom, du Aesop Rock etc... (j'en passe et des meilleur) ca fait chaud au coeur ! pas de RJD2 a la prod ?
    Je sais pas vous mais moi c'est un peu le projet dont je revait... au niveau du choix des artistes (et la c'est clair on peut employer le terme) ya une continuité dans le temps et dans la qualité.... ca fait plaisir !

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    ManyMore - Lun 03 Oct 2005
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    Ouais c'est vraiment bien mais je serai encore plus ravi si on pouvait entendre tout les rappeurs du cew sur un nouvel album... je rêve?

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    Infamous Dean - Lun 03 Oct 2005
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    mf doom c vraiment un bosseur il est tro vif tjrs sur tou les fronts les bonnes connexions...

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    VERBAL KINT - Lun 03 Oct 2005
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    hum... dire que rza fait du kanye, c'est dire que dre fait du eminem...
    enfin j'attends ce projet d pieds ferme et même s'il n'est pas "parfait" ça fait toujours plaisir d'écouter les membres du wu sur du bon son...

    ps:ma chronique de "the problem" de mathematics devrait bientôt être publié sur le site...

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    DJPREMIER - Lun 03 Oct 2005
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    jatten ca le wu en indé ac d mecs bi1 barge kom mf doom ou madlib ca peu donné kelk choze ds le délire a la bonne épok de RZA com en 93.......

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    the amadou - Lun 03 Oct 2005
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    bon le wutang c POUR TOUJOURS
    LE RETOUR DU WU EST PRESQUE VENU
    ILS VONT CASSER LA BARAQUE

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    sixela - Lun 03 Oct 2005
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    Et bah quelle nouvelle !!

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    GaNDiuS - Lun 03 Oct 2005
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    Exellente nouvelle :good:
    Du sang neuf, c'est tout ce dont le Wu Tang avait besoin après le décès de ODB !

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    - Lun 03 Oct 2005
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    GOD DAMN !!

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    dogforlife - Lun 03 Oct 2005
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    je me disais bien que ca ressemblait un peu a ce que faisait kanye west!!

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    Real Lex - Lun 03 Oct 2005
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    Dernièere nouvelle : Gza va poser aux cotes de .........................





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    RASKASS !!!!!!!!!!!!!! si ca ca fait pas plaisir !!! Liquid swordz on the re-up !!

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    Real Lex - Lun 03 Oct 2005
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    Retour aux sources, oui, pour le duo mf / abbot. Rza - dont c'est la seule prod sur l'album - a concoté une track au tempo assez lent, avec un sample soul de la grande époque - ca fait plaisir, ca change des samples a la kanye west, le traitement du sample par rza étant tellement plus convaincant à mon sens -des voix feminines chaleureuses en background et une ligne de basse bien grassouillette. Le passage de relais au mic est assuré par un break batterie tres efficace. Un bon titre, qui délivre sa profondeur au fil des écoutes. Maintenant, pour le reste des prods, c'est bronze nazareth qui est aux commandes (sauf qqs titres produits par mathematics), ce qui devrait donner un son dans la veine du black market militia. Et c'est là que la bat blesse...Wu-tang meets the indie, c est 'aussi au niveau des prods que cela aurait du se jouer. Des producteurs comme belief, blockhead, 4th pyramid, evidence, madlib, avec un flow et une voix wu, voila ce qui aurait légitimé le titre du projet. Mais bon, l'initiative est sympa, cela permet au wu, grand seigneur, de s'affilier aux stars indé, et de regagner un peu de souffle en estanpillant le w sur la chair fraiche de mcs talentueux. Le casting undy est bien choisi, meme si c'aurait été une vraie perf de choisir des indé moins connus. Dreddy krueger, qui est à l'origine du projet - think differently music group - ne rappera meme pas dessus. Il a avoué lui-même que rza, puis timbo king l'avait poussé a rapper - un peu comme masta killa - mais que cela n'était plus vraiment sa came. Par ailleurs, le EP de royal fam n'était sorti qu'en europe et au japon, non aux us...Bref, merci dreddy krueger, en espérant que les collabos soient bien senties. Du c-rayz / ghostface (meme si le polus probable est un PA / ghostface) ou du aesop rock / method, ce serait vraiment bon. Wait and see.



    Fish scale, le nouveau ghostface, arrive en decembre

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    Raging Bull - Lun 03 Oct 2005
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    Ce projet s'annonce bien, avec peut-être une forme de retour aux sources pour le Wu, même si les membres associés à ce disque (RZA, GZA, U-God et Masta Killa) ne se sont jamais vraiment éloignés de l'esprit originel du crew. D'alleurs, les autres membres ne sont-ils pas conviés à ces rencontres au sommet ? J'aurais bien vu un duo Planet Asia / Method Man ou Cannibal Ox / Ghostface...

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    Sagittarius - Dim 02 Oct 2005
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    La troupe du Wu-Tang Clan va enfanter un nouveau projet en collaboration avec Babygrande Records, ce qui fait la joie du patron du label indépendant Chucky Wilson, espérant que ce disque permettra d'autres connexions de ce genre à l'avenir. ‘Wu Tang Meets The Indie Culture’ est une idée originale de Dreddy Krueger, et devrait faire surface le 18 octobre prochain.

    Du côté du Wu, on trouvera RZA, GZA, U-God et Masta Killa et de l'autre, Del Tha Funkee Homosapien, Cannibal Ox (avec El-P), C-Rayz Walz, Planet Asia, J-Live, Casual et Aesop Rock. Le premier extrait déjà disponible sur iTunes est "Biochemical Equation" de RZA & MF Doom. Des rencontres au sommet en vue!

    Plus d'informations : ici